The limits of speech and the nature of visions
Regarding the heavenly ones, thus someone being surrounded by the body is still able to be guided by the vision of the mind in heaven and the paradise to become such.
Another will say that whether in a body or outside of a body, he writes not about his own body in which the soul is surrounded, but about the whole state, so that the thing said might be such: snatched up even to the third heaven and into the paradise (2 Cor 12:4). Whether these things are a body or incorporeal, I do not know; for the knowledge of these things rests with the Father of Wisdom, God.
And the 'even to the third heaven' also contains ambiguity; for from the ambiguity it is signified whether, it being the case of the greater number of heavens, he reached up to the third to understand the things there—and let this be numbered from the firmament; for this is the first heaven for those being taken up entirely—or whether, it being the case of one heaven, he reached up to the third part of it. However it may be, God would know and whom He would himself make manifest; nevertheless, two snatchings are made evident: even to the third heaven and even into the paradise.
But it must be said regarding the things said, that he did not say anything about the third heaven as one who has heard or seen something; for concerning the one who announced how he heard in it unutterable words (2 Cor 12:4), which it is not possible for man to speak—unless indeed one takes commonly 'I heard unutterable words even in the third heaven or heaven and into the paradise.' However it may be, it is made evident that the paradise is a school of divine lessons.
And what does he intend by the unutterable words? Let it be known how much the one speaking them uses not syllables and sounds, being unutterable, compared to how much they have the truth, having the essence in divine intellect; and these things are heard not by the reception of sense but by the contemplation of divine intellect. For the God-Word Himself being Christ, does not neglect, speaking not to Paul but in Paul; and thus He also taught, becoming toward each of the prophets. If therefore the Savior speaks in the saints, the things said are unutterable; for if they were spoken words, He would have struck their hearing, and not...
He spoke in them, but to them. And it is even the case that it is not within a man's power to speak. For indeed it is possible for a man to hear, having an enlightened understanding, but it is impossible to speak those things with voices and syllables; for these are the speaking elements. 'Not within power' is said instead of 'possible'. This is not said only here, but also in other letters of the one writing these things; for everything is permitted, but not everything is profitable, which is equal to being able to do all things.
Having said this, he necessarily brought forward the divine revelations and visions: 'I will boast about a man such as this being in Christ, but about myself I speak boldly only concerning the aforementioned weaknesses' (2 Cor 12:7-9). And he who says these things is not another from the one who has seen the visions; except if he is indeed the same, he differs in thought—how indeed he is understood as a weak man because of the intention of the condescension, but how he is understood as having ascended super-eminently and being in Christ because of the vision.
Others, not wishing to give an occasion, and claiming that no way is strong enough to let the evil one inflict any diseases, and not enduring that perfect men should undergo much regarding the health of the body—for they will say they have learned to endure those who oppress them—will say: 'Someone having received many and great visions, if he were not overcome by human weakness, would think greatly of himself.' In order that he might not have room, the power guarding the ruling principle of God often manages for the one being guarded to be outside the protection of it, so that they might slip in and take a human thought.
And since perfect men shut out even the contamination in the intellect, they think they have a great disaster, even if a memory is cast upon them by a satanic angel. Therefore, they indeed entreat to be cleansed also from secret things and to not have any awareness of something trivial. And that this is so, he knew, being afflicted, to flee to God, as he shows having written: 'Concerning this distressing satanic angel, three times I entreated the Lord, so that he might be removed from me. And the Lord said to me, whom I entreated: My grace is sufficient for you; for you shall know through...'
Greek
τοῖς ἐπουρανίοις, οὕτω περικείμενός τις τὸ σῶμα ἔτι οἷός τε ἐστι νοῦ ὀπτασίᾳ ποδηγούμενος ἐν οὐρανῷ καὶ τῷ παραδείσῳ γενέσθαι. ἄλλος δέ τις ἐρεῖ, ὅτι εἴτε ἐν σώματι, εἴτε ἐκτὸς τοῦ σώματος γράφειν αὐτὸν οὐ περὶ τοῦ ἰδίου σώματος οὗ περίκειται ἡ ψυχή, ἀλλὰ περὶ τοῦ καθ' ὅλου, ἵν' ᾖ τὸ λεγόμενον τοιοῦτον· ἡρπάγη ἕως τρίτου οὐρανοῦ καὶ εἰς τὸν παράδεισον, πότερον δὲ σῶμα ταῦτα ἢ ἀσώματον, οὐκ οἶδα· ἀνάκειται γὰρ ἡ εἴδησις τούτων τῷ πατρὶ τῆς σοφίας, θεῷ. ἔχει δὲ καὶ τὸ ἕως τρίτου οὐρανοῦ ἀμφιβολίαν· σημαίνεται γὰρ ἐκ τῆς ἀμφιβολίας ὁτὲ μὲν τὸ πλειόνων ὄντων οὐρανῶν ἕως τρίτου γεγονέναι αὐτὸν ἐπὶ τῷ τὰ ἐκεῖσε πράγματα κατανοῆσαι–ἀριθμείσθω δὲ οὗτος ἀπὸ τοῦ στερεώματος· οὗτος γὰρ πρῶτος οὐρανὸς τοῖς ἀναλαμβανομένοις ἅπαντα–, ὁτὲ δὲ τὸ ἑνὸς ὄντος οὐρανοῦ μέχρι τρίτου μορίου αὐτὸν ἐφθακέναι. ὁποτέρως δὲ ἔχει, θεὸς ἂν εἰδείη καὶ ᾧ ἂν αὐτὸς φανερώσῃ· ὅμως δύο ἁρπαγαί εἰσι δηλούμεναι ἕως τρίτου οὐρανοῦ καὶ ἕως εἰς τὸν παράδεισον. λεκτέον δὲ πρὸς τοῖς εἰρημένοις, ὡς οὐδὲν εἶπεν περὶ τοῦ τρίτου οὐρανοῦ ὡς ἀκηκοώς τι ἢ θεασάμενός ἐστιν· περὶ γὰρ τοῦ ἀπαγγείλαντος ὡς ἤκουσεν ἐν αὐτῷ ἄρρητα ῥήματα, ἃ μὴ δυνατὸν ἀνθρώπῳ εἰπεῖν–εἰ μὴ ἄρα κατὰ κοινοῦ τις λάβῃ τὸ “ἤκουσα ἄρρητα ῥήματα ἔν τε τῷ τρίτῳ οὐρανῷ ἢ οὐρανοῦ καὶ εἰς τὸν παράδεισον”. ὁποτέρως δ' ἂν ἔχοι, δηλοῦται ὅτι παιδευτήριον θείων μαθημάτων ὁ παράδεισός ἐστιν. τί δὲ βούλεται καὶ τὰ ἄρρητα ῥήματα; ἴστεον ὅσον ἐπὶ τῷ μὴ συλλαβαῖς καὶ φωναῖς χρᾶσθαι τὸν λέγοντα αὐτά, ἄρρητα τυγχάνειν, ὅσον δὲ ἔχουσι τὸ ἀληθὲς ἐν θείᾳ νοήσει τὴν ὑπόστασιν ἔχοντα, ῥήματά ἐστιν· ἀκούεται δὲ ταῦτα οὐκ αἰσθήσεως ἀντιλήψει ἀλλὰ θεωρίᾳ νοήσεως θείας. ἀμέλει γοῦν ὁ θεὸς λόγος αὐτὸς ὢν ὁ Χριστός, οὐ Παύλῳ ἀλλ' ἐν Παύλῳ λαλεῖ· οὕτω δὲ ἐδίδασκε καὶ πρὸς ἕκαστον τῶν προφητῶν γινόμενος. εἰ τοίνυν ἐν τοῖς ἁγίοις λαλεῖ ὁ σωτήρ, ἄρρητά ἐστι τὰ λεγόμενα· εἰ γὰρ ῥητὰ ἦν, ἔπληττεν αὐτῶν τὴν ἀκοήν, καὶ οὐκ ἐν αὐτοῖς ἀλλ' αὐτοῖς 16 ἐλάλει. εὖ δὲ καὶ τὸ εἰπεῖν οὐκ ἐξὸν ἀνθρώπῳ λαλῆσαι· ἀκοῦσαι μὲν γὰρ ἀνθρώπῳ δυνατὸν νόησιν πεφωτισμένην ἔχοντι, λαλῆσαι δὲ αὐτὰ ἀδύνατον φωναῖς καὶ συλλαβαῖς· τούτων γάρ εἰσι λαλητικοί. τὸ ἐξὸν ἀντὶ τοῦ δυνατὸν εἴρηται, οὐκ ἐνταῦθα μόνον ἀλλὰ 42 καὶ ἐν ἑτέραις ἐπιστολαῖς τοῦ ταῦτα γράφοντος· τὸ γὰρ πάντα ἔξεστιν, ἀλλ' οὐ πάντα συμφέρει, ἴσον ἐστὶ τοῦ πάντα δύνασθαι. Εἰπὼν δὲ τὰς θείας ἀποκαλύψεις καὶ ὀπτασίας ἀναγκαίως ἐπήγαγεν· ὑπὲρ τοῦ τοιούτου ὄντος ἐν Χριστῷ ἀνθρώπου καυχήσομαι, ὑπὲρ δὲ ἐμαυτοῦ ἐν μόνοις τοῖς προειρημένοις ἀσθενήμασι παρρησιάζομαι. ταῦτα δὲ λέγων οὐκ ἄλλος ἐστὶ τοῦ θεωρήσαντος τὰς ὀπτασίας· πλὴν εἰ καὶ ὁ αὐτός ἐστιν, ἐπινοίᾳ διαφέρει, πῆ μὲν νοούμενος ὡς ἄνθρωπος ἀσθενὴς διὰ τὴν τῆς συγκαταβάσεως πρόθεσιν, πῆ δὲ ὡς ὑπεραναβεβηκὼς καὶ ἐν Χριστῷ ὢν διὰ τὴν θεωρίαν. 2 Kor 12,7-9 Ἕτεροι δὲ μὴ βουλόμενοι ἀφορμὴν διδόναι καὶ μηδένα τρόπον ἰσχύειν τὸν πονηρὸν ἐμποιεῖν τινα νοσήματα, μηδὲ ἀνεχόμενοι τοὺς τελείους ἄνδρας περὶ πολλοῦ ποιεῖσθαι τὴν τοῦ σώματος ὑγείαν– ἴσασι γὰρ κατεξανίστασθαι τῶν ἐπιπόνων–φήσουσιν· πολλὰς καὶ μεγάλας θεωρίας εἰληφώς τις, εἰ μὴ νύττοιτο ὑπὸ ἀνθρωπίνης ἀσθενείας, μέγα φρονήσει ἐφ' ἑαυτῷ. ὅπως ἂν μὴ ἔχοι χώραν, ἡ φρουροῦσα τὸ ἡγεμονικὸν θεοῦ δύναμις πολλάκις οἰκονομεῖ τὸν φρουρούμενον ἔξω γενέσθαι τῆς ὑπ' αὐτῆς σκέπης, ὡς παρείσδυσιν λαβεῖν ἀνθρώπινον λογισμόν. καὶ ἐπεὶ μυσάττονται οἱ τέλειοι ἄνδρες καὶ τὸν ἐν διανοίᾳ μολυσμόν, μέγαν κόνδυλον ἔχειν οἴονται, κἂν ἐνθύμημά τι ὑποβληθῇ αὐτοῖς ὑπ' ἀγγέλου σατανικοῦ. ἀμέλει γοῦν παρακαλοῦσι καὶ ἀπὸ κρυφίων καθαρισθῆναι καὶ μηδὲν αὐτοῖς συνειδέναι φαῦλον. καὶ ὅτι τοῦτο οὕτως ἔχει, κονδυλιζόμενος ἔγνω καταφυγεῖν θεῷ, ὡς δηλοῖ γράψας· ὑπὲρ τούτου τοῦ ἐνοχλοῦντος σατανικοῦ ἀγγέλου τρὶς τὸν κύριον παρεκάλεσα, ἵνα μακράν μου γένηται. καὶ εἶπεν μοι ὃν παρεκάλεσα κύριος· ἀρκεῖ σοι ἡ χάρις μου· γνώσῃ γὰρ δι'
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Didymus on Paul's second letter to Corinth: suffering, comfort, and what makes a true apostle.
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