Why did you come?
Augustine has just asked Emeritus to explain why he came, and now addresses him directly, pressing him to speak if he thinks he was not defeated at the conference.
Brother Emeritus, you are here. You took part in the conference with us. If you were defeated, why did you come? But if you do not think you were defeated, tell us why you consider yourself the victor. You were defeated only if you were defeated by truth. But if you seemed defeated by power and you conquered by truth, there is no power here by which you seemed defeated. Let your fellow citizens hear why you presume you are the victor. And if you know that truth was victorious against you, why do you still reject unity?
Emeritus, bishop of the Donatist party, said: The records show whether I was defeated or I conquered, whether I was defeated by truth or crushed by power.
Augustine, bishop of the Catholic Church, said: Then why did you come?
Emeritus, bishop of the Donatist party, said: To say what you are asking.
Augustine, bishop of the Catholic Church, said: I am asking why you came. I would not be asking this if you had not come.
Emeritus, bishop of the Donatist party, said to the notary who was taking it down: Do it.
Latin
Frater Emerite, praesens es. collationi (no)biscum interfuisti. si uictus es, quare uenisti? si autem te uictum esse non putas, loquere unde tibi uictor esse uidearis. tunc enim uictus es, si ueritate uictus es. si autem uideris uictus potestate et uicisti ueritate, non est hic potestas qua uictus uideris; audiant ciues tui unde te uictorem praesumis esse. at si nosti aduersus te uictricem fuisse ueritatem, quid adhuc respuis unitatem? Emeritus episcopus partis Donati dixit: Gesta indicant si uictus sum aut uici, si ueritate uictus sum aut potestate oppressus sum. Augustinus episcopus ecclesiae catholicae dixit: Quare ergo uenisti? Emeritus episcopus partis Donati dixit: Ut hoc dicerem quod requiris. Augustinus episcopus ecclesiae catholicae dixit: Requiro quare ueneris. hoc non quaererem, si non uenisses. Emeritus episcopus partis Donati dixit notario qui excipiebat: Fac.