To Turbantius — fragments in Against Julian · §5.9.36

Julian excerpt and reported charges

Against Julian 5.9.36

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There can be absolutely nothing that is both sin and punishment for sin.

Augustine reports Julian accused him of contradictory statements: that bodily intercourse was invented by the devil, and that the law of sin opposing the mind’s law was imposed by God as punishment.

Latin source witness

Latin

Nullo modo esse posse aliquid quod et peccatum sit et poena peccati?

extra futuram operum retributionem ex multa parte liberum arbitrium formam voluit implere iudicii? Iustissime enim sibi - sicut definis - bonus homo malusque committitur, ut et bonus se fruatur

et malus se ipse patiatur

concubitum corporum a diabolo fuisse repertum

inoboedientiam carnis quae in carne concupiscente adversus spiritum apparet, diabolico vulnere contigisse

Hanc legem peccati repugnantem legi mentis a Deo illatam propter ultionem, et ideo poenam esse peccati

About this text

Earlier four-book work to Turbantius, surviving as excerpts arranged by Augustine’s witness. Latin source text is on each section when recovered.

English follows Julian’s words as Augustine excerpts them in Against Julian. This is not a recovered complete To Turbantius.

Witnesses

  • Copy-text Augustine, Against Julian (Latin · Excerpts arranged by Augustine’s books)

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