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But let us proceed to what remains, so that the unfolding of the apostle’s sacred discourse may show which doctrine he agrees with, as has already largely become clear. You write: ‘What else do the apostle’s following words indicate? After saying this he added: “Until the law, sin was in the world” (Romans 5:13)—that is, because not even the law could remove sin. “But sin was not reckoned when there was no law” (Romans 5:13). It therefore existed but was not reckoned, because it was not disclosed so that it could be reckoned. As he says elsewhere: “Through the law comes knowledge of sin” (Romans 3:20). “But death reigned,” he says, “from Adam until Moses”—the same as his earlier “until the law.” Not until Moses as though sin ceased thereafter, but because not even the law given through Moses could remove death’s reign, which certainly reigns only through sin. Its reign consists in hurling a mortal human being into the second death also, which is everlasting (Revelation 20:14; Revelation 21:8). “But it reigned.” Over whom? “Even over those,” he says, “who did not sin in the likeness of Adam’s transgression, who is a figure of the one to come” (Romans 5:14). Of which coming one, if not Christ? And what sort of figure, if not one by contrast? As he also says elsewhere: “As in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive” (1 Corinthians 15:22). As the one thing is in the first, so the other is in the second: that is the figure. But this figure does not correspond in every respect. Therefore the apostle went on to add here: “But the gift is not like the offense. For if through the one man’s offense many died, much more did God’s grace and the gift in the grace of the one man Jesus Christ abound to many” (Romans 5:15). What does “abound much more” mean? Because everyone who is freed through Christ dies a temporal death on account of Adam, but will live without end on account of Christ himself’ (Augustine, Marriage and Desire 2.46). You have asserted that the apostle’s subsequent words indicate nothing other than original sin. But we have proved that he did not indicate it even at the beginning, since he specified that sin passed through one, not through two.

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Sed iam pergamus ad reliqua, ut, cui dogmati Apostolus concinat, sicut ex multa parte claruit, processibus sacri sermonis ostendat. Quid autem aliud indicant etiam sequentia verba apostolica? Cum enim hoc dixisset, adiunxit: " Usque ad legem peccatum in mundo fuit ", id est quia nec lex potuit auferre peccatum; " peccatum autem non deputabatur, cum lex non esset " [n98] . Erat ergo, sed non deputabatur, quia non ostendebatur, quod deputaretur; sicut enim alibi dicit: " Per legem cognitio peccati [n99] , sed regnavit - inquit - mors ab Adam usque ad Moysen ", hoc est, quod supra dixerat:" usque ad legem "; non usque ad Moysen, ut deinceps non esset peccatum, sed quia nec lex per Moysen data regnum potuit mortis auferre, quae non regnat utique nisi per peccatum. Regnum porro eius est, ut hominem mortalem in secundam etiam, quae sempiterna est, praecipitet mortem. " Regnavit autem ". In quibus? " Etiam in his - inquit - qui non peccaverunt in similitudine praevaricationis Adae, qui est forma futuri " [n100] . Cuius futuri nisi Christi? Et qualis forma nisi a contrario? Quod alibi etiam dicit: " Sicut in Adam omnes moriuntur, ita in Christo omnes vivificabuntur " [n101] . Sicut in illo illud, ita in isto istud; ipsa est forma. Sed haec forma non omni ex parte conformis est; unde hic Apostolus secutus adiunxit: " Sed non sicut delictum ita et donatio; si enim ob unius delictum multi mortui sunt, multo magis gratia Dei et donum in gratia unius hominis Iesu Christi in multos abundavit " [n102] . Quid est: " multo magis abundavit "? Quia omnes, qui per Christum liberantur, temporaliter propter Adam moriuntur, propter ipsum autem Christum sine fine victuri sunt [n103] . Nihil aliud consequentibus Apostoli sermonibus indicari professus es quam originale peccatum; quod nos approbavimus ipso sui exordio non ab eo ostensum fuisse, quia per unum, non per duos peccatum transisse signaverat.

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Julian’s six preserved books to Florus, quoted section by section in Augustine’s unfinished reply. Augustine’s refutations are omitted. Latin of Julian’s words is on each section.

Julian’s own books do not survive as a separate manuscript. English follows his words as Augustine quotes them in the Unfinished Work Against Julian. Augustine’s replies are omitted. We do not restore a Julian text independent of Augustine.

Witnesses

  • Copy-text Augustine, Unfinished Work Against Julian (Latin · Julian’s words as quoted, Books 1–6)
  • Checked print Augustinus.it Latin of the Unfinished Work (Latin · Same work)
  • Checked print Migne PL 45 (Latin · Hard cases)

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