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As for your addition, “Through one man sin entered the world,” I have shown here how inappropriately it was placed, just as I explained in the second book how it should be understood. But now that the present argument is complete, I would like to reconsider your exceedingly sharp statement. You say: “‘Through one man sin entered the world, and through sin death; and so it passed to all human beings, in whom all sinned’ (Romans 5:12). Through that one man’s evil will, all sinned in him, when all were that one man. For that reason, each inherited original sin from him” (Augustine, On Marriage and Concupiscence 2.5.15). “They sinned then,” you say, “when all were that one man.”

I had already pointed out that you wrote this to Marcellinus (Augustine, On the Merits and Forgiveness of Sins 1.11; 3.14). This testimony convicts you of believing and embracing the propagation of souls, taken particularly from Manichaeus’s very entrails; I quoted his statements in the third book. It is certainly so ugly that, although you imply it, you nevertheless never dare profess it. But let us postpone this for now: it is killed both by the obscenity of its first advocate and by the fear of his successor—that is, you. At present I want to examine the confusion that tosses you about in argument. You say, “Through that one man’s evil will, all sinned in him, when all were that one man.” If all were that one man, how did all sin through his evil will, when all these people whom you say were in him could have sinned by their own wills? Indeed, to turn the argument back, he was unhappier than everyone else, since he alone bears the odium, although according to your doctrine everyone sinned in him.

Infants therefore possessed will not only before they were born but before their great-grandparents were generated. They exercised choice before the seeds of their substance were created. Why, then, do you fear to say that at the time of their own conception they possess free will, by which they do not naturally inherit sin but voluntarily commit it, if you believe that those conceived today possessed sensation, judgment, and an effective will so many ages ago? You did not hesitate to state this in the books issued under Marcellinus’s name, plainly to show the madness that grips God’s enemies. There you say: “These infants sinned in Adam so that they might be created like him” (Augustine, On the Merits and Forgiveness of Sins 1.11). What more false, insane, and filthy words could sound than that they sinned beforehand so that they might be created? That is, by acting they deserved to become beings who could act, and their action was older than their substance. It is enough to point out these inventions, more suited to Bacchic revels and ritual wands than to literature.

From this flowed your reply: “All sinned in him, when all were that one man, from whom each inherited original sin.” There is no need to labor here to show that, since will is a person’s act, will cannot exist before the person whose will it is. What I especially want understood is that even on this opinion there is no original sin. For if everyone who sinned was there, they inherited nothing from an original evil, because they all committed it through their own efforts. The inheritance of sin is therefore destroyed not only by catholic truth but by every argument of its own defender. That is indeed the nature of lies: they do not maintain a consistent pretense. Wasteful of shame and greedy for what belongs to another, they are exposed in everything they seize.

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Quod vero addidisti: Per unum hominem peccatum intravit in mundum, ut hic ostensum est inconvenientissime collocatum, ita in secundo libro quemadmodum intellegatur expositum est. Sed iam, praesenti disputatione suppleta, libet acutissimam retractare sententiam; sic enim inquis: " Per unum hominem peccatum intravit in mundum et per peccatum mors; et ita in omnes homines pertransiit, in quo omnes peccaverunt " [n149] . Per unius illius voluntatem malam omnes in eo peccaverunt, quando omnes ille unus fuerunt, de quo propterea singuli originale peccatum traxerunt [n150] . Tunc, inquis, peccaverunt, quando omnes ille unus fuerunt. Hoc autem iam ad Marcellinum te scripsisse [n151] signaveram; quo testimonio convinceris, animarum traducem de Manichaei specialiter visceribus acceptum (cuius in tertio libro sententias inserui) credere atque complecti. Quod certe tam deforme est, ut tu illud cum significes, nequaquam tamen audeas profiteri. Sed hoc nos in praesenti interim differamus, quod et prioris assertoris sui obscenitate, et sequentis, id est, tuo pavore iugulatur. Illud autem in praesenti dispicere iuvat, quanta in disputando perturbatione iacteris. Ais quippe: Per unius illius voluntatem malam omnes in eo peccaverunt, quando omnes ille unus fuerunt. Si omnes ille unus fuerunt, quomodo per voluntatem illius malam omnes peccaverunt; cum isti omnes, quos in illo fuisse dicis, sua potuerint voluntate peccare? Immo, ut retorqueamus, ille infelicior cunctis, qui solus portat invidiam, cum omnes in illo secundum tuum dogma deliquerint. Habuerunt ergo parvuli voluntatem, non solum antequam nascerentur, verum antequam proavi eorum generarentur; et usi sunt electionis arbitrio, priusquam substantiae eorum semina conderentur. Cur itaque metuis dicere, in eis tempore conceptuum suorum esse liberam voluntatem, qua peccatum non trahant naturaliter, sed sponte committant; si credis eos hodie conceptos, ante tot saecula habuisse sensum, iudicium, efficientiam voluntatis? Quod quidem in libris quos ad Marcellini nomen edidisti, non dubitasti ponere; plane ad ostendendum qua amentia teneantur inimici Dei. Ibi enim ita ais: Qui parvuli in Adam peccaverunt, ut ei similes crearentur [n152] . Quo quid mendacius, amentius, et spurcius potuit insonare, quam ante peccaverunt, ut crearentur? Id est, faciendo meruerunt, ut possent esse qui aliquid operarentur; et antiquior eorum fuit actio, quam substantia. Quae commenta, Orgiis et Thyrsis aptiora quam litteris, indicasse sufficiat. Inde ergo manavit ista responsio, qua dicis: Omnes in eo peccaverunt, quando ille unus omnes fuerunt, de quo singuli peccatum originale traxerunt. Hic enim laborandum non est, ut doceamus, cum voluntas opus personae sit, voluntatem ante personam, cuius voluntas est, esse non posse; sed illud potissimum intellegi volo, quia nec secundum hanc opinionem est originale peccatum. Nam si omnes ibi fuerunt, qui peccaverunt, nihil traxerunt de originali malo, quia id universi suis studiis perpetrarunt. Tradux ergo peccati non solum catholica veritate destruitur, verum etiam patroni sui argumentis omnibus; quod quidem habet mendaciorum natura, ut non servet simulandi concinentiam, sed verecundiae prodiga, et alieni appetens, in universis quae usurpaverit detegatur.