Saul and the Chasm
He seemed to have received rewards worthy of his labor, and then adding, he said: 'And between us and you there is a chasm,' he says, 'it has been made great, so that those wishing to cross from there to you are not able, nor those from there to us to pass through.'
If then there is an idea of a chasm dividing between the righteous and the unrighteous, so that those from there to that place are not able to wander across, nor those from here to arrive there, Saul, being unrighteous, is not with the prophet Samuel. For if the rich man cannot be with the poor man, even without having done wrong or persecuted him, but not having given to him readily from what he had, how much more is the stingy man unworthy to enjoy the fellowship of the saints?
But it is not to be thought that because of shameful gain the divine command is set aside, and being struck by a demon, he is driven about by a curse, David pursues the saintly one with nothing becoming the world, even though by prophetic psalmody he exposes the ferocity of the demon reveling in him; to slaughter three hundred priests of the Lord, being fifty to the number, does he stand away from God, divining impiously? And if he did these things and these things as brothers, how can one think that Samuel ended up with the wonder-worker, who in a season of summer caused rain to become, and by it an immeasurable multitude of waters was scattered?
If it is not possible to say that Saul is with Samuel, The one who said to him, 'Tomorrow you shall be with me' (1 Sam 28:24), lied. If indeed he who said these things is a liar, it is evident that this Samuel is not; for the prophet of the Lord would not so foolishly lie, so that such widely spreading words point out the nakedly hidden, many-faced, most cowardly beast. He himself is indeed the one who split into the chasm of Tartarus and the manifest Saul; whence he approached him familiarly, grasping him, saying: 'Tomorrow you shall be with me.'
He attempts to arrange things in a double way, striving to show that the righteous never differs from the unrighteous, and he agrees that Jonathan received the same inheritance as his father, even though he was not joined by his father's harshness. Who among those existing pretends not to perceive that the lover of the prophet David, having lived most excellently, but having undertaken to pursue the righteous unjustly, offers the same wages to the persecutor? For he will not die, to use the universal expression, a son for an unrighteous father. But indeed the charlatan is also convicted by this message.
The writer, adding a sequence to a lack of order, said that 'Saul hurried and fell standing upon the ground and was greatly afraid' (1 Sam 15:14), saying 'from the words of Samuel.' For we know those to be the words of Samuel, which he had prophesied to him, being present in body and tongue; but the phantom of these things took up the words and offered them up as his own; of whom, remembering the ruler and seeing the signs of war established opposite, having understood their end, he became fearful.
But Origenes plates doctrines for himself, knowing that most of those who happen to be weighing these things are one thing, yet in conversing with those arguing against him, he did not hasten with the due reverence to investigate accurately what is necessary; but rather, professing to touch upon the drama of the engastrimythos for all and calling the truth necessary for examination, he clearly fights against the truth itself.
Then, having extracted praises for Samuel, as many as the divine scriptures converse about him, he again, as if deciding him to be under the power of the demon, was framing him with words and with syllables: 'Is it then that if such a man was under the earth and the engastrimythos raised him up, the demon has authority over a prophetic soul?' But these things, though he says as if posing a question or perhaps asking, are insinuated to be said sometimes by some, so that through what he will later arrange, he might conclude that such things are so.
Greek
ἀξίας ἔφαινεν ἀμοιβὰς ἐπάθλου χάριν εἰληφέναι, τηνικαῦτα προσθεὶς ἐπεφθέγξατο· «καὶ ἐπὶ πᾶσι τούτοις μεταξὺ ἡμῶν καὶ ὑμῶν χάσμα» φησὶν «ἐστήρικται μέγα, ὅπως οἱ θέλοντες διαβῆναι ἔνθεν πρὸς ὑμᾶς μὴ δύνωνται, μηδὲ οἱ ἐκεῖθεν πρὸς ἡμᾶς διαπερῶσιν.» 14.12 εἰ τοίνυν ἐστὶ χάσματος ἰδέα διείργουσα μεταξὺ δικαίων ἠδ' 20ἀδίκων, ὥστε μὴ δύνασθαι τοὺς ἔνθεν ἐκεῖσε20 διαπορθμεῦσαι μήτε δεῦρο τοὺς ἐκεῖθεν ἀφικέσθαι, συνέστηκεν ὡς ὁ Σαοὺλ ἄδικος ὢν οὐκ ἔστι μετὰ προφήτου Σαμουήλ· 14.13 εἰ γὰρ ὁ πλούσιος οὐ δύναται μετὰ τοῦ πένητος εἶναι, καὶ ταῦτα μηδὲν ἀδικήσας μηδὲ διώξας αὐτόν, ἀλλὰ μὴ μεταδοὺς αὐτῷ προχείρως ἐξ ὧν εἶχεν, πόσῳ δὴ μᾶλλον ὁ σχέτλιος ἀνὴρ ἀνάξιός ἐστι τῆς τῶν ἁγίων ἀπολαῦσαι κοινωνίας; 15.1 Ἀλλ' οὐ διανοητέον ὅπως αἰσχροῦ μὲν ἕνεκα κέρδους ἀθετεῖ τὸ θεῖον ἐπίταγμα, δαίμονι δὲ πληγεὶς ἀνιάτως ἐλαύνεται βασκανίᾳ, τὸν ἁγιοπρεπῆ διώκει ∆αβὶδ οὐδενὶ κόσμῳ πρέποντι, καίτοι ψαλμῳδίᾳ προφητικῇ τὴν ἀγριότητα τοῦ ἐμβακχεύοντος ἐν αὐτῷ δαίμονος ἡμεροῦντα, 15.2 τοὺς ἱερεῖς ἀποσφάττει τοῦ κυρίου τριακοσίους ὄντας πρὸς τοῖς πεντήκοντα τὸν ἀριθμόν, ἀφίσταται τοῦ θεοῦ μαντευόμενος ἀσεβῶς; εἰ δὲ ταῦτα καὶ τὰ τούτοις ἀδελφὰ διεπράξατο, πῶς οἷόν τε νομίζειν ὅτι μετὰ τοῦ θαυμασιουργοῦ κατέληξε Σαμουήλ, ὃς ἐν ὥρᾳ θέρους ὑετὸν ἠξίωσε γενέσθαι, καὶ παρ' αὐτὸ κατεσκεδάσθη πλῆθος ἀμέτρητον ὑδάτων; 15.3 εἰ δὲ οὐκ ἔστιν εἰπεῖν ὅτι Σαούλ ἐστιν μετὰ τοῦ Σαμουήλ, ἐψεύσατο μὲν ὁ λέγων αὐτῷ· «αὔριον ἔσῃ σὺ μετ' ἐμοῦ». τοιγαροῦν εἰ ψεύστης ὁ ταῦτα εἰρηκὼς ὑπάρχει, πρόδηλον ὡς οὐκ ἔστιν ὁ Σαμουὴλ οὗτος· οὐ γὰρ ἂν οὕτως ἀφρόνως ὁ τοῦ κυρίου ψεύσαιτο προφήτης, ὥστε τὰ τοιαῦτα δίχα 20διαπτυσσόμενα ῥήματα γυμνὸν ὑποδεικνύει τὸν20 πολυπρόσωπον ἐνδοτάτω θῆρα κρυπτόμενον. 15.4 αὐτὸς γοῦν ἐστιν ὁ κατασπάσας εἰς τοῦ ταρτάρου χάσμα καὶ τὸν ἐμμανῆ Σαούλ· ὅθεν οἰκείως αὐτῷ προσεφθέγγετο κρατήσας· «αὔριον ἔσῃ μετ' ἐμοῦ». 15.5 διττῷ δὲ συστῆσαι τρόπῳ πειρώμενος ὡς οὐδέποτε δίκαιος ἀδίκου διαφέρει, καὶ τὸν Ἰωνάθαν ἅμα τῷ πατρὶ τὸν αὐτὸν ἐκείνῳ κλῆρον ἀπενέγκασθαι συνωμολόγει, καίτοι μὴ συνενεχθέντα τῇ τούτου ὠμότητι. 15.6 τίς δὲ τῶν ὄντων ὑποκρίνεται μὴ νοεῖν ὅτι κράτιστα βιώσας ὁ τοῦ προφήτου ∆αβὶδ ἐραστής, ἀλλὰ μὴ διῶξαι δίκαιον ἀδίκως ἐγχειρήσας, οὐ τὴν αὐτὴν ἀποφέρεται τῷ διώξαντι μισθοφορίαν; 15.7 οὐ γὰρ ἀποθανεῖται, τὸ ξύμπαν εἰπεῖν, υἱὸς ὑπὲρ ἀδίκου πατρός. ἀλλὰ μὴν ἐλέγχεταί γε καὶ διὰ τοῦδε τοῦ μηνύματος ὁ ψευδορράφος. 16.1 Ἀπαραλείπτῳ δὲ τάξεως ἀκολουθίᾳ προσθεὶς ἔφησεν ὁ συγγραφεὺς ὅτι «καὶ ἔσπευσε Σαοὺλ καὶ ἔπεσεν ἑστηκὼς ἐπὶ τὴν γῆν καὶ ἐφοβήθη σφόδρα» λέγων «ἀπὸ τῶν λόγων Σαμουήλ». 16.2 ἐκείνους γὰρ οἶδε τοῦ Σαμουὴλ εἶναι τοὺς λόγους, οὓς προεφήτευσε μὲν αὐτῷ σώματι καὶ γλώττῃ παρών, τὸ δὲ φάσμα τούτους ἀνελέξατο τοὺς λόγους καὶ προὔφερεν ὡς ἰδίους· ὧν ὁ δυνάστης ὑπομνησθείς, καὶ τὰ τοῦ πολέμου σύμβολα θεωρῶν ἄντικρυς ἱδρυμένα, περιδεὴς ἐγεγόνει, τὸ πέρας αὐτῶν ἐννοῶν. 16.3 ἀλλ' Ὠριγένης ἑαυτῷ δόγματα πλάττων, εἰδὼς ὅτι πλεῖστοι μὲν ὅσοι τυγχάνουσιν οἱ ταῦτα ψηφιζόμενοι, πρὸς δὲ τοὺς ἀντιλέγοντας αὐτῷ διαλεγόμενος, οὐκ ἐσπούδασε μετὰ τῆς ὀφειλομένης εὐλαβείας ἀκριβῶσαι τὸ δέον· ἀλλά γε τὸ τῆς ἐγγαστριμύθου δρᾶμα πάντων ἅπτεσθαι προλέγων καὶ τὴν ἀλήθειαν εἰς τὴν ἐξέτασιν ἀναγκαίαν ἐπικαλούμενος, αὐτῇ τῇ ἀληθείᾳ μάχεται προφανῶς. 16.4 εἶτα τοῦ Σαμουὴλ ἐγκώμια διεξιών, ὅσα περὶ αὐτοῦ διαλαλοῦσιν αἱ θεῖαι γραφαί, τηνικαῦτα πάλιν ὑπὸ τὴν τοῦ δαίμονος ἐξουσίαν ἀποφαίνων αὐτὸν αὐτοῖς ῥήμασι καὶ αὐταῖς ἐπέφραζε συλλαβαῖς· «ἆρ' οὖν <εἰ> ὁ τηλικοῦτος ὑπὸ τὴν γῆν ἦν καὶ ἀνήγαγεν αὐτὸν ἡ ἐγγαστρίμυθος, ἐξουσίαν ἔχει δαιμόνιον ψυχῆς προφητικῆς;» 16.5 ἀλλὰ ταῦτα μὲν ὡς ἐπαπορῶν ἢ τάχα ἴσως ἐρόμενος ὑπονοεῖται λέγειν ἐνίοτε παρά τισιν· ἵνα δὲ διὰ τῶν ἔπειτα συστήσειεν ἐπιλόγων ὅτι ταῦτα οὕτως ἔχει,
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Eustathius against Origen on the witch of Endor / belly-speaker (1 Samuel 28).
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