To Florus · §6.25

To Florus 6.25

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But why do we stubbornly think only truth’s reasoning should be followed, when our enemies’ battle line relies on the very dangers of life and rises against us fortified by miseries’ support? It wants to prove the transmission of faults and punishments into reproductive seed through the shame of intercourse, the pain of childbirth, and the sweat of labor. These signs—difficult births, sweating farmers, and thorny fields—are meant to make us believe in a natural crime for which the human race is exercised by so many troubles. Some think Adam’s sin made the race mortal.

I said ‘some’ because their leader Augustine was ashamed to say this. Writing to Marcellinus, he says Adam appears to have been made mortal. Yet with his usual elegance he adds that death was the wages of iniquity (compare Romans 6:23), and pronounces that the one he admits was established mortal according to nature could not have died. Those pronouncements in Genesis which afflict Adam and Eve are therefore commonly brought against us. It is now time to discuss them.

‘The Lord God said to the serpent: Because you have done this, you are cursed beyond all cattle and all beasts upon the earth (Genesis 3:14). You shall go upon your breast and belly and eat earth all the days of your life. I will put enmity between you and the woman, between your seed and her seed. She shall watch for your head, and you shall watch for her heel.

‘To the woman he said: I will greatly multiply your sorrows and your groaning (Genesis 3:16). In sorrow you shall bear children; your turning shall be toward your husband, and he shall rule over you.

‘To Adam he said: Because you listened to your wife’ (Romans 6:23)s voice and ate from the tree of which I commanded you not to eat from that one alone, the earth is cursed in your works. In sorrow you shall eat from it all the days of your life. It shall produce thorns and thistles for you, and you shall eat the grass of your field. In the sweat of your face you shall eat your bread until you return to the earth from which you were taken, because you are earth, and into earth you shall go’ (Genesis 3:14–19).

You take these pronouncements as evidence of inborn iniquity and proclaim that women would not have suffered pain in childbirth unless the misery of Eve’s childbearing had passed to them along with her sin. You want the punishment itself to prove sin, so that what the first woman earned through her offense cannot be felt by any woman without the same iniquity. ‘There would be no pain in the woman giving birth,’ you say, ‘unless there were sin in the child being born.’

I can scarcely measure how astonished I am in meeting these claims. Your opinion has supplied so many irritations here that I can scarcely bring myself to contest it. These objections contain more sins against understanding than syllables.

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Verum quid nos tam obstipe veritatis solius rationem sequendam putamus; cum inimicorum nostrorum phalanx ipsis innitatur rerum periculis, et insurgat in nos aerumnarum munita suffragiis? Vult quippe pudore coeuntis, dolore parientis, sudore laborantis, transmissionem culparum et poenarum in semina comprobare; ut his videlicet signis, difficilium partuum, agricolarum sudantium, et dumosorum novalium, crimen naturale credatur, cuius merito per tot incommoda genus exerceatur humanum; quod quidam per Adae peccatum, mortale opinantur effectum. Ideo autem dixi: Quidam, quia princeps eorum Augustinus hoc quidem erubuit dicere. Denique scribit ad Marcellinum, mortalem Adam factum videri; sed elegantia solita subdit, mortem stipendium iniquitatis fuisse; et quem fatetur mortaliter institutum secundum naturam, mori non potuisse pronuntiat. Illae ergo adversus nos, quae leguntur in Genesi, sententiae proferri solent, quibus Adam atque Eva vexantur, de quibus disserendi iam est tempus. Dixit - inquit - Dominus Deus serpenti: Quia fecisti hoc, maledictus tu ab omnibus pecoribus, et ab omnibus bestiis quae sunt super terram; super pectus et ventrem ambulabis, et terram manducabis omnibus diebus vitae tuae; et inimicitias ponam inter te et mulierem, et inter semen tuum et semen eius. Ipsa tuum captabit caput, et tu illius captabis calcaneum. Mulieri vero dixit: Multiplicans multiplicabo tristitias tuas et gemitum tuum; in tristitia paries filios, et ad virum tuum conversio tua, et ipse tui dominabitur. Adae autem dixit: Quoniam audisti vocem mulieris tuae, et manducasti de ligno, de quo praeceperam tibi de eo solo ne manducares ex eo, maledicta terra in operibus tuis; in tristitia manducabis eam omnibus diebus vitae tuae; spinas et tribulos edet tibi, et edes fenum agri tui; in sudore faciei tuae edes panem tuum, donec convertaris in terram de qua sumptus es; quoniam terra es, et in terram ibis [n153] . Has ergo sententias ad testimonium ingenitae iniquitatis assumitis, concionaminique non fuisse in pariendo feminas dolituras, nisi ad eas cum peccato Evae fecunditatis illius aerumna transisset. Ipsum ergo supplicium vultis esse peccati indicium, ut quod prima feminarum meruit per delictum, nulla quoque sine eadem credatur iniquitate sentire. Non enim esset, inquitis, dolor in pariente, nisi in nascente esset peccatum. His ergo quam attonitus occurram, haud facile metior? Tantum enim stimulorum admovit in hoc loco vestra opinio, ut vix digner ad certationem moveri; plura quippe in his obiectionibus intellegentiae sunt peccata quam syllabae.

About this text

Julian’s six preserved books to Florus, quoted section by section in Augustine’s unfinished reply. Augustine’s refutations are omitted. Latin of Julian’s words is on each section.

Julian’s own books do not survive as a separate manuscript. English follows his words as Augustine quotes them in the Unfinished Work Against Julian. Augustine’s replies are omitted. We do not restore a Julian text independent of Augustine.

Witnesses

  • Copy-text Augustine, Unfinished Work Against Julian (Latin · Julian’s words as quoted, Books 1–6)
  • Checked print Augustinus.it Latin of the Unfinished Work (Latin · Same work)
  • Checked print Migne PL 45 (Latin · Hard cases)

This is an AI-assisted study translation. Source fidelity and completeness have not been independently certified. Open Latin on each section (or the Latin source witness link) for the source text. This is not a complete critical edition.