To Florus · §6.16

To Florus 6.16

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I do not know whether, now driven by lack of resources, you might attempt something so foolish and weak as saying you cannot prove by any reasons that God created Adam good, but are satisfied to believe it solely on the authority of the reading. After humanity was formed on the sixth day, it says of all creatures together: ‘God saw everything he had made, and behold, it was very good’ (Genesis 1:31). You would thus judge Adam to have been established without injustice, not because of the maker’s dignity or a weighing of his justice, but because of the testimony calling all created things well made.

Yet although this strikes Mani so lightly that he laughs, it exposes the advocate of inherited sin bound before us. We need gather no crowd of divine testimonies here. The apostle’s authority alone supplies our ruling: foreseeing this foul error, he thundered against you in lofty speech, ‘Every creature of God is good’ (1 Timothy 4:4).

If Moses’ statement that God made everything well suffices to prove the first human was formed with a good nature, and you therefore insist Adam could not have been created by God with sin because he is read to have been made good among the rest, we will answer along exactly the same lines: no one can be born with sin, because the apostle defends every creature of God as good.

What have these arguments accomplished? The choice offered you in the contest declared between you and Mani has publicly revealed what reason discovered. Once the contest was proposed, you could not hurl even one weapon at your teacher without destroying yourself. Thus it shines still more clearly that you and the Manichaeans have fused through obscene agreement into a single body of impiety. What could be more closely joined than what not even the arrival of danger can separate? In every destruction of Mani, the doctrine of inherited sin dies with him. Nothing strikes him and leaves you intact. Your principles, mysteries, and dangers are one—and you resent being called old Mani’s offspring?

Latin source witness

Latin

Nescio sane, utrum hic iam coactus inopia, tam ineptum, tam imbecillum aliquid moliaris, ut dicas, nullis te quidem rationibus docere posse Adam bonum a Deo conditum, sed ad hoc credendum sola esse lectionis auctoritate contentum, qua post formatum hominem sexto iam die communiter de omnibus creaturis refertur: Et vidit Deus omnia quae fecit, et ecce bona valde [n80] . Quod non pro opificis dignitate, non pro appensione eius iustitiae, sed pro testimonio, quo communiter quae creata sunt, bene facta dicuntur, Adam quoque haud iniquum aestimes institutum. Porro licet hoc Manichaeum tam leviter pulset, ut rideat; Traducianum tamen revinctum exponit nobis. Ut enim nullo testimoniorum divinorum in hanc rem populos congregemus; Apostoli solius auctoritate praescribimus, qui cum foedum praevideret errorem, celso adversum vos ore detonuit dicens: Quoniam omnis creatura Dei bona est [n81] . Si ergo ad probandum bonae naturae primum hominem fuisse formatum, sufficit hoc quod dicit Moyses, universa Deum bene condidisse, perque hoc tu cum peccato creari a Deo Adam non potuisse contendis, quia bonus inter reliqua legitur institutus; iisdem lineis referemus, per hoc nullum posse cum peccato nasci, quoniam ab Apostolo omnis creatura Dei bona esse defenditur. Quid ergo his disputationibus actum est? Videlicet, ut id quod ratio indagarat, optio quoque indicti inter te et Manichaeum praelii publicaret; ut cum proposito certamine ne unum quidem telum sine tua pernicie in praeceptorem tuum vibrare posses, multo manifestissime reluceret, vos et Manichaeos in unum impietatis corpus obscena coaluisse concordia. Quid enim potest esse tam iunctum, quam quod nec discriminum separatur incursu? Omni exitio Manichaei, Traducianorum dogma commoritur; nihil est quod illum feriat, et te relinquat. Una vobis sunt instituta, una mysteria, unaque pericula; et substomacharis, si senis Manis soboles nuncupere?

About this text

Julian’s six preserved books to Florus, quoted section by section in Augustine’s unfinished reply. Augustine’s refutations are omitted. Latin of Julian’s words is on each section.

Julian’s own books do not survive as a separate manuscript. English follows his words as Augustine quotes them in the Unfinished Work Against Julian. Augustine’s replies are omitted. We do not restore a Julian text independent of Augustine.

Witnesses

  • Copy-text Augustine, Unfinished Work Against Julian (Latin · Julian’s words as quoted, Books 1–6)
  • Checked print Augustinus.it Latin of the Unfinished Work (Latin · Same work)
  • Checked print Migne PL 45 (Latin · Hard cases)

This is an AI-assisted study translation. Source fidelity and completeness have not been independently certified. Open Latin on each section (or the Latin source witness link) for the source text. This is not a complete critical edition.