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Although it is established that we have achieved this abundantly, our work nevertheless grows long. Let the wise reader understand that brevity was indeed desirable to us, but the needs of the case demanded that error spread more widely by the world’s favor be defeated by a broader battle line of truth. Our discourse therefore extends for a reason. With Christ’s help, I trust that no part of the impiety against which we contend will be judged carelessly investigated, insufficiently discovered, or only moderately battered. We therefore neither can nor should despair that, as time advances, the storm that has arisen may subside and the authority of the wise correct the cowardly crowd now making its uproar. But our wish matters less than our settled judgment. Whatever outcome the state of affairs receives, our grounds of goodwill and faith will stand. We do not depend on the outcome of popular success. We know the declaration of the three young men in Babylon. When a most arrogant king tried to compel them to worship a statue, they resisted with complete faithfulness, undeterred by the panting furnace lit to devour the devout. They answered as faith and steadfastness required: ‘Our God is able, O king, to free us from this furnace. But even if he does not free us, know that we do not worship your gods or adore the statue you have set up’ (Daniel 3:17–18). How reverently they mingled desire with judgment, without letting desire weaken the weight of their resolve! They neither cast faith’s courage down through despair nor suspend it on craving. They include their wishes, but do not abandon the proper order; they comfort endurance, but subordinate gentler outcomes to just ones. ‘It is certain,’ they say, ‘that our God can free us; whether he wills to do so is uncertain. Therefore, amid the uncertain outcome of events, the devout hold to a certain resolution: to reject idols and endure punishments. Let God consider what good our deliverance may bring to others. Meanwhile,’ they say, ‘let undefeated faith preserve our true happiness.’ One whose adversity trades for his glory has no excessive need to indulge easier outcomes. From this discipline left by illustrious teachers, we too understand that we must maintain moderation in our wishes for prosperity, but permanence in our decisions about the doctrines of faith. We desire, with the swelling of persecution restrained, to help the peoples too. But if that does not happen, our resolution stands: to endure every bitterness of insult and danger rather than fail to reject Manichaean filth and pollution.

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Cum igitur id a nobis abunde constet effectum; tamen quia operi nostro nascitur longitudo, sapiens lector intellegat, nobis quidem optabilem fuisse brevitatem, sed exegisse causae necessitatem, ut error saeculi favore diffusior, latiore veritatis acie vinceretur. Haud igitur de nihilo est, quod sermo noster extenditur. Adiutu enim Christi praesumo confore, ut nulla pars impietatis, contra quam nobis certamen est, aut negligenter quaesita, aut minus inventa, aut attrita mediocriter censeatur. Nec illud ergo desperare vel possumus, vel debemus, quoniam processu temporum tempestas excitata considat, et auctoritate sapientum vulgus ignavum quod nunc perstrepit corrigatur; sed voti quam sententiae minor causa est; quemvis enim status rerum exitum sortiatur, constabit nobis ratio et benignitatis et fidei. Neque enim pendemus ad prosperitatis popularis eventum. Scitum est siquidem illud trium in Babylone puerorum, qui cum a rege superbissimo ad adorandam statuam cogerentur, fidelissime restiterunt, neque anhela sunt fornace conterriti, quae accensa erat in religiosorum voratum; responderuntque ut et fidei et constantiae congruebat: Potens est, inquiunt, Deus, o rex, liberare nos de fornace hac; sed etiamsi non liberet, scito quoniam deos tuos non colimus, nec statuam quam erexisti adoramus [n11] . Quam sanctum votum iudicio miscuerunt, nec tamen consilii gravitatem desiderio levarunt! Fortitudinem fidei nec desperatione praecipitant, nec cupiditate suspendunt; miscent quidem vota; ceterum ordinem non relinquunt; consolantur tolerantiam h, sed iustis mitiora submittunt: Certum est, inquiunt, quoniam nos possit liberare Deus noster; sed utrum velit, est incertum; et ideo sub ambiguo rerum eventu stat piorum certa sententia, idola respuendi, supplicia perferendi. Viderit quid boni nostra liberatio etiam ceteris conferat; nobis interim veram felicitatem fides, inquiunt, invicta custodiat; non habet ergo mollioribus gratificandi nimiam necessitatem, cuius gloriae negotiantur adversa. De hac et nos disciplina, quam reliquerunt illustres magistri, intellegimus tenendam in prosperis votorum mediocritatem, in dogmatibus vero fidei consiliorum perennitatem; optamusque, persecutionum tumore compresso, etiam populis subvenire; at si id non accidat, stat quidquid acerbum est in contumeliis et periculis perpeti, quam non aversari illuviem sordesque manichaeas.

About this text

Julian’s six preserved books to Florus, quoted section by section in Augustine’s unfinished reply. Augustine’s refutations are omitted. Latin of Julian’s words is on each section.

Julian’s own books do not survive as a separate manuscript. English follows his words as Augustine quotes them in the Unfinished Work Against Julian. Augustine’s replies are omitted. We do not restore a Julian text independent of Augustine.

Witnesses

  • Copy-text Augustine, Unfinished Work Against Julian (Latin · Julian’s words as quoted, Books 1–6)
  • Checked print Augustinus.it Latin of the Unfinished Work (Latin · Same work)
  • Checked print Migne PL 45 (Latin · Hard cases)

This is an AI-assisted study translation. Source fidelity and completeness have not been independently certified. Open Latin on each section (or the Latin source witness link) for the source text. This is not a complete critical edition.