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It follows, then, that you must put aside modesty and, while remaining friends with your teacher, enter an alliance with the Cynics. As Cicero reports in On Duties, the arguments of some Stoics also accompany them. They criticize ordinary decency because we regard as disgraceful in speech things that are not shameful in reality, while we call by their proper names things that are shameful in reality. Committing robbery, perpetrating fraud, and committing adultery are shameful acts, but naming them is not obscene. Working to produce children is honorable in reality but obscene in name. “They argue many other things,” he says, “against modesty along these lines. But let us follow nature and avoid everything that offends the approval of eyes and ears” (Cicero, On Duties, book 1).

So you too, who dislike this natural reasoning, the sister of decency, must either say that working to produce children—a task that requires modesty—is uglier and more profane than robbery, sacrilege, and murder of a parent, all of which are supremely shameful in reality but contain no obscenity in their names; or, if you blush to accuse marriage so far that it outweighs even crimes when compared with them, urge married couples to name that union as confidently and freely as we usually name murder of a parent or robbery. If you then add, to mock Christian ears as you usually do, that bodily union intended for offspring is stained by no injustice but can be judged good within its proper measure, embrace the deed of Crates of Thebes. He was a wealthy and noble man so devoted to the Cynic sect that he left his inherited wealth and moved to Athens with his wife Hipparchia, who followed this philosophy with equal commitment. When he wished to have intercourse with her in public, as Cornelius Nepos relates, she drew her cloak over herself to conceal it and was beaten by her husband. “Plainly,” he said—in keeping with your views—“you are still poorly taught, since you do not dare to do in others’ presence what you know you are right to do” (Cornelius Nepos).

Such conduct is entirely due from your flocks: natural acts should be practiced without any barrier of modesty, because they are proved good by having been created by God for multiplying bodies. Return the favor to the four-footed animals, then. Their examples defend your bodily sensation against the devil’s ownership and Manichaeus’s mouth; you too should imitate their freedom in mating as testimony to the goodness of the act. It is fitting that those who have defended your organs should provide instruction for your conduct.

To establish by repetition what we have done: you said lust should be clothed in no modesty if God had made it. Although I treated this fully in the four books of my earlier work, I have also shown here, through the testimony of all the animals that you still admit were created by God, that sexual lust was created by God. Yet I acknowledge that in human beings it should be screened by modesty. It therefore follows from your doctrine that you should bring back before us the elegance of the Cynics after its long exile and perform natural acts before the city’s eyes, because they were made by God. Do you see how blindly you leaped upon my statement, “In order to express faithfully what took place, the prophet came close to endangering modesty” (Augustine, On Marriage and Concupiscence 2.9.22)? Your teacher, whose inventions I quoted in the previous book, criticizes this consistently with his own fables, since he denies that God made any bodies. But you have shamelessly dared to handle it while acknowledging—though out of fear—that God created the bodies whose sensation you attribute to the ruler of darkness. That claim has been crushed with all the power of truth expressed in the evangelist’s faithful words: “Everything was made through God, and without him nothing was made” (John 1:3).

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Sequitur ergo ut verecundiam deponas, ac manente amicitia cum magistro, Cynicis foedereris; quos tamen aliquorum, ut Cicero in Officiis refert, etiam Stoicorum argumenta comitantur. Arguunt quippe communem honestatem, quod ea quae re turpia non sint, verbo flagitiosa ducamus; illa autem quae re turpia sint, nominibus appellemus suis. Latrocinium perpetrare, fraudem facere, adulterium committere, re turpe est, sed dicitur non obscene; liberis operam dare, honestum est re, nomine obscenum. Pluraque in eam sententiam, ab eisdem - inquit - contra verecundiam disputantur. Nos autem naturam sequamur, et omne quod abhorret ab oculorum auriumque approbatione fugiamus [n70] . Et tu ergo, cui displicet ista ratio naturalis germana honestatis, aut dic, et latrocinio, et sacrilegio, et parricidio, quae omnia in re habent turpitudinem maximam, in nominibus nulla obscenitatem, tetrius esse et profanius operam dare liberis, quam verecundiae reposcit officium; aut si erubescis eo usque nuptias accusare, ut etiam sceleribus collatae praeponderent; adhortare coniuges tam secure appellare illam commixtionem, tamque libere, quam solemus parricidium et latrocinium nominare. Iamvero si addideris coniunctionem corporum fetibus destinatam, ob illudendum, ut soles, auribus christianis, nulla iniquitate maculari, sed pro suo modo bonam posse censeri, amplexare factum illud Cratae Thebani, hominis locupletis et nobilis, cui adeo fuit cordi secta Cynicorum, ut relinquens paternas opes, Athenas cum uxore migraverit Hyparcide, pari animo istius philosophiae sectatrice, cum qua cum concumbere in publico vellet, ut refert Cornelius Nepos, et illa occultandi gratia, pallii velamen obduceret, verberata est a marito: Tuis sensibus nimirum - inquit - parum adhuc docta es, quae quod te recte facere noveris, id aliis praesentibus exercere non audeas [n71] . Debetur omnino talis habitus vestris gregibus, ut naturalia, quia per hoc bona quod a Deo condita in multiplicationem corporum comprobantur, sine ullo pudoris usurpentur obiectu. Restituite igitur quadrupedibus gratiam, ut quia illa sensum corporum vestrorum a possessione diaboli et ore Manichaei suis tuentur exemplis, vos quoque illorum in coeundo libertatem pro rei bonae attestatione sectemini. Congruit quippe ut praestent morum magisterium, quibus patrocinium praestiterunt membrorum. Et ut quod egimus repetitione assignetur; dixisti libidinem, si eam Deus fecisset, nullo amiciendam pudore; nos licet in quattuor prioris operis libris id plene egerimus, tamen in praesenti quoque omnium animalium testimonio, quae a Deo condita interim confiteris, libidinem sexuum a Deo creatam esse monstravimus, quam tamen in hominibus pudore obumbrandam fatemur; tuum ergo dogma consequitur, ut longo postliminio Cynicorum nobis repraesentes decorem, et ea quae naturalia sunt, quia a Deo facta sunt, in oculis civitatis exerceas. Sentisne quam involutis luminibus insiliveris in sententiam meam, qua dixi: Ut exprimeret fidem operum propheta, prope periculum pudoris accessit [n72] ? Haec enim ut consequenter iuxta suas fabulas praeceptor tuus arguit, cuius in libro posui superiore commenta, qui omnia corpora facta a Deo pernegat; ita tu impudenter contrectare ausus es, qui creatorem Deum fateris (timendo licet) corporum, quorum sensum adscribis principi tenebrarum; quod certe tanta veritatis potestate detritum est, quanta fide dictum ab Evangelista: Quia per Deum facta sunt omnia, et sine ipso factum est nihil [n73] .