To Florus 3.185
You say: ‘Anyone who has lawful intercourse through desire uses an evil well’ (Augustine, Marriage and Sexual Desire 2.36). You remind us to believe instead the apostle, who said good did not dwell in his flesh, and you want what is not good—that is, the evil dwelling in the apostle’s flesh—to be understood as fleshly desire (Romans 7:18). Mani put it no differently. After saying, ‘So that their deeds will not be exposed,’ he adds: ‘This is why the apostle cries to the Romans: “I do not do the good I want, but I perform the evil I abhor” (Romans 7:19) (John 3:20). He grieved because sin—that is, the devil—produced every desire in him (Romans 7:8). The law’s authority shows desire’s evil by condemning every use of it, which the flesh admires and praises.’
Latin
Quod vero ais: Quia concupiscentia qui licite commiscetur, malo bene utitur [n230] , ut magis credi Apostolo commemores, qui dixisset quia non habitat in carne sua bonum, et hoc non bonum, id est malum in carne Apostoli habitans, vis concupiscentiam carnis videri [n231] , Manichaeus non aliter quam tu posuit. Nam postquam dixit: Ne manifestentur opera eorum; propter quod Apostolus - inquit - clamat ad Romanos: " Non bonum quod volo ago, sed malum operor quod exhorreo " [n232] . Dolebat enim - inquit - quia peccatum id est diabolus operabatur in eo omnem concupiscentiam, legalis auctoritas indicat malum concupiscentiae, cum omnem eius usum vituperat, quem caro miratur et laudat.
About this text
Julian’s six preserved books to Florus, quoted section by section in Augustine’s unfinished reply. Augustine’s refutations are omitted. Latin of Julian’s words is on each section.
Julian’s own books do not survive as a separate manuscript. English follows his words as Augustine quotes them in the Unfinished Work Against Julian. Augustine’s replies are omitted. We do not restore a Julian text independent of Augustine.
Witnesses
- Copy-text Augustine, Unfinished Work Against Julian (Latin · Julian’s words as quoted, Books 1–6)
- Checked print Augustinus.it Latin of the Unfinished Work (Latin · Same work)
- Checked print Migne PL 45 (Latin · Hard cases)
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