To Florus · §2.104 · Julian of Eclanum

To Florus 2.104

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But your opinion will not carry such weight among the wise that, although you are ‘the source and cause of these evils’ (Virgil, Aeneid 11.361), you can withdraw from the middle of the contest by putting the apostle in the way. You suppose that he should take the blows for you, although he is precisely the teacher and leader who arms us against you. To understand, then, what you can consistently say: if you and I agreed that the apostle confirmed the Manichaeans’ doctrine of natural sin, you could confidently place him in the path of someone aiming at your head. As it is, however, the Teacher of the Gentiles’ dignity remains inviolable for me. I will not permit your interpretation to injure his words, which, according to the rule of reason set out above, I maintain are opposed to a foolish, filthy, and impious doctrine. I prove that he said nothing in favor of natural sin. With what shamelessness, then, do you insist that he answer me in your place, when he is not being questioned because his wisdom is not doubted? Or how do you shout that I refuse to hear from the apostle what I detest in you precisely through the sound understanding the apostle has handed down to us?

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Sed non tua opinio apud prudentes tantum valebit, ut, cum tu sis caput horum et causa malorum [n143] , de conflictu medio Apostoli te obiectione subducas et putes illum pro te esse feriendum, quo potissimum contra vos praeceptore armamur ac principe. Ut ergo, quid tibi dicendum sit, consequenter agnoscas; si mihi et tibi super hoc esset nulla dissensio, quod Apostolus naturali peccato Manichaeorum dogma firmaret, tunc tuum caput petenti illum constanter opponeres; nunc vero, cum inviolabilis apud me Magistri Gentium dignitas perseveret eiusque verba tua laedi expositione non patiar, quae secundum regulam prolatam rationis stulto, impuro et impio assero dogmati repugnare nihilque eum pro peccato naturali dixisse convinco, qua tu impudentia ingeris, ut vel pro te mihi ille respondeat, qui non interrogatur, quoniam nec de eius sapientia dubitatur, vel me vociferaris nolle audire ab Apostolo, quod in te ab Apostolo nobis tradita intellegentiae sanitate detestor?