To Florus · §1.128

To Florus 1.128

Click or tap any sentence to jump there. The side buttons skip a paragraph.

Nothing is more contradictory than saying “all” (Romans 9:21) and “not all”. You say that God the potter makes everyone for condemnation. The apostle says that not everyone is for condemnation and not everyone for honor. I will explain the worth of this statement in its proper place. Even in the wording of the statement, however, there is plainly a great disagreement between you. The potter who shapes everyone for condemnation is not the same as the one Paul says fashions some for honor. You do not believe in the one proclaimed by that admirable teacher, because your potter shapes everyone for condemnation, while the apostle's potter shapes very many for glory (compare Romans 9:21).

Latin source witness

Latin

Nihil enim ita pugnat, quam dicere, omnes, et non omnes. Tu dicis, a figulo Deo omnes fieri in condemnationem; Apostolus dicit, non omnes in condemnationem, nec omnes in honorem; quod in loco suo, quid habeat dignitatis absolvam. In ipsa tamen pronuntiatione sententiae, constat inter vos magnam esse discordiam, nec eumdem esse figulum in condemnationem cuncta fingentem, quem Paulus dicat in honorem alios fabricantem; nec te illi credere, qui a magistro admirabili praedicatur; quoniam tuus figulus omnes in condemnationem fingit, Apostoli figulus plurimos fingit in gloriam.

About this text

Julian’s six preserved books to Florus, quoted section by section in Augustine’s unfinished reply. Augustine’s refutations are omitted. Latin of Julian’s words is on each section.

Julian’s own books do not survive as a separate manuscript. English follows his words as Augustine quotes them in the Unfinished Work Against Julian. Augustine’s replies are omitted. We do not restore a Julian text independent of Augustine.

Witnesses

  • Copy-text Augustine, Unfinished Work Against Julian (Latin · Julian’s words as quoted, Books 1–6)
  • Checked print Augustinus.it Latin of the Unfinished Work (Latin · Same work)
  • Checked print Migne PL 45 (Latin · Hard cases)

This is an AI-assisted study translation. Source fidelity and completeness have not been independently certified. Open Latin on each section (or the Latin source witness link) for the source text. This is not a complete critical edition.