On the Belly-Speaker against Origen · §16

The error of the soul's descent

He asks, "Is the place of Christ and the prophets a place of weeping?" A few among them attack him with slander, suggesting that Christ, while in the lower place, was "away by his own choice," as he says, "being in the lower place."." [17.5] He speaks as if addressing a man alone, no longer considering his divine nature, asserting that he descended to the lowest parts but by choice remained above, just as he neglects all other men.

For he said, "Thus even the prophets and Samuel, even if they descend to where the souls are below—they may be in the lower place, but they are not below by their choice." [17.6] Having filled the world with empty words, he fails to realize that everyone, no matter how much they have sinned, who has descended into Hades, has become 'away' by their own choice. Descended into Hades, they have become 'away' by their own choice.

For no one, whether righteous or unrighteous, would be content to always have the highest fellowship and to be deprived of the lower places. [17.7] If then all who descended into Hades will reach the heights by choice, even if some did not care much for a righteous life, what kind of value does this contradict the prophetic chorus? Why did he report the Lord's word as being identical for all? He spoke ignorantly, not understanding that the Word, being God, is present everywhere continuously, not by choice but by the virtue of divinity. [17.8]

Even if he permitted his most chosen temple to be dissolved and then raised again strangely after three days, [17.9] the soul of this human dwelling, having descended to the lowest parts of the earth, lifted up the gates there with a sudden rush and cast souls into those gates destroyed in that place. [17.10] Thus it has been strengthened by divine power through the union of God and the Word, so that it has authority everywhere. [18.]

But indeed I am convinced, and the evidence of this is clear: how he reached the low places of the underworld, and in the same way he brought the willful soul of the thief into paradise. For if through one man salvation has become the property of all men, it is evident that the soul redeems like-kind souls, at once descending into the low parts of chaos, and at once restoring to the most ancient paradise the intruder into the power of the unassailable kingdom.

Furthermore, before these things, the servant of God testified, saying: 'And no one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man who is in heaven' (John 3:13). Therefore, if it is established that the one moving from the human race ascended to heaven most uniquely of all, and descended again from there into this place, and having come here, walked in heaven, it is established that the man performed these things through the excellence of soul most extraordinarily.

For the holy soul of Christ, sharing with God both essence and Word, wanders all things together, but has ascended into the highest heaven, into which no other of men has ascended. But these things are suspended upon it, the human idea, which God carried and Word.

And since the servant of God is everywhere present at once, John has stood as witness even about this, being an ear to Christ, and crying out having risen, saying: 'No one has seen God at any time; the only-begotten Son who is in the bosom of the Father, he has made him known' (John 1:18). And if Christ, being present here, provided for the body, and how he reported these words to John, and he, receiving these sayings of his, preached that he is in the bosoms of the Father while eating on earth with his body, how should we not conceive that he also stepped upon the heavens at that time, and how, dwelling within the bosoms and having stayed on earth in a God-befitting manner, he was present to all as a god?

Greek

χρῄζει τόπος» αὐτοῦ τε «τοῦ Χριστοῦ καὶ τῶν προφητῶν;», ὀλίγα ἄττα διὰ μέσου τάττων ἄλλην ἐπιπλέκει δυσφημίαν, ἐκφαίνων ὅτι καὶ κάτω τυγχάνων ὁ Χριστὸς «ἵν' οὕτως εἴπω» φησὶν «ἐν τῷ κάτω τόπῳ ὤν, τῇ προαιρέσει ἄω ἦν.» 17.5 ὡς περὶ ἀνθρώπου δὲ μόνου προσομιλῶν ἀλλ' οὐκέτι καὶ τῆς θείας αὐτοῦ στοχαζόμενος φύσεως, ἐν τοῖς κατωτάτω μὲν αὐτὸν ἔφασκεν ἀφῖχθαι, προαιρέσει δὲ δήπουθεν ἄνω βεβηκέναι, καθάπερ οὖν ἀμέλει καὶ τοὺς ἄλλους ἀνθρώπους. 17.6 «οὕτω» γὰρ ἔφη «καὶ οἱ προφῆται καὶ Σαμουήλ, κἂν καταβῶσιν ὅπου αἱ ψυχαὶ» φησὶν «αἱ κάτω, ἐν τῷ κάτω μὲν δύνανται εἶναι τόπῳ, οὐ κάτω δέ εἰσι τῇ προαιρέσει». κουφολογίᾳ δὲ δὴ περιηχήσας ἀπειροπληθεῖ τὸν κόσμον, οὐδὲ τοῦτο ξυνίησιν ὅτι πᾶς ὁστισοῦν ἀνθρώπων, εἰ καὶ σφόδρα σχέτλιός ἐστιν, ἐν ᾅδου κατελθὼν ἄων τῇ προαιρέσει καθέστηκεν. 17.7 οὐδεὶς γοῦν ἂν εἴη γε δικαίων οὐδ' ἀδίκων, ὃς οὐ γλίχεται τῶν ἀνωτάτω μὲν ἑκάστοτε διατριβῶν ἔχεσθαι, τῶν δὲ καταχθονίων 20ἀπηλλάχθαι τόπων. εἰ τοίνυν ἅπαντες ὁμοῦ οἱ20 καταχθέντες εἰς ᾅδου τῶν ἄνω φορῶν ἐρῶσι προαιρέσει, κἂν οὐ πάνυ δικαίου τινὲς ἐπεμελήσαντο βίου, ποταπὸν ἀξίωμα τοῦ προφητικοῦ διεσάφει χοροῦ; 17.8 τί δὲ τὸ περιττὸν ἀπήγγελλε τοῦ κυρίου, πᾶσιν ὅμοιον ἀποφαίνων αὐτόν; ἀλλ' οὕτως ἀμαθῶς ἐξήχησε τὴν φωνήν, οὐκ ἐννοήσας ὅτι θεὸς ὢν ὁ λόγος, οὐ προαιρέσει μᾶλλον, 20ἀλλ' ἀρετῇ τῆς θεότητος ἁπανταχοῦ πάρεστιν20 ἀθρόως. 17.9 εἰ δὲ καὶ τὰ μάλιστα τὸν ἔκκριτον ἑαυτοῦ ναὸν ἐπέτρεψε λυθῆναι, τριήμερον μὲν αὐτίκα πάλιν ἀνήγειρε καινοπρεπῶς, ἡ δὲ ψυχὴ τοῦδε τοῦ ἀνθρωπείου σκηνώματος εἰς τὰ κατώτατα κατελθοῦσα μέρη τῆς γῆς, ἀνεπέτασε τὰς ἐκεῖσε πύλας ἀθρόᾳ ῥοπῇ καὶ τὰς αὐτόθι καθειργμένας ἀνῆκε ψυχάς· 17.10 οὕτω δὲ θεσπεσίᾳ κεκραταίωται δυνάμει διὰ τὴν τοῦ θεοῦ καὶ λόγου συνουσίαν, ὥστε καὶ παντέφορον ἔχειν ἐξουσίαν. 18.1 Ἁλλὰ μὴν ἔγωγε πείθομαι καὶ τούτου τεκμήριον εἶναι σαφές, ὁπηνίκα μὲν εἰς τοὺς καταχθονίους ἀφικνεῖτο τόπους, ἐν ταὐτῷ δὲ καὶ τὴν τοῦ λῃστοῦ ψυχὴν αὐθήμερον εἰσῆγεν εἰς τὸν παράδεισον. 18.2 εἰ γὰρ δι' ἑνὸς ἀνθρώπου τοῖς ἅπασιν ὑπῆρξεν ἀνθρώποις ἡ 20σωτηρία, πρόδηλον ὡς ἡ ψυχὴ τὰς ὁμογενεῖς20 ἀναλυτροῦται ψυχάς, ἅμα μὲν εἰς τὰ καταχθόνια κατιοῦσα μέρη τοῦ χάους, ἅμα δὲ καὶ τῇ ἀρχαιοτάτῃ τοῦ παραδείσου πάλιν ἀποκαθιστῶσα νομῇ τὸν ὑπεισδύντα τῷ κράτει τῆς ἀηττήτου βασιλείας. 18.3 ἀκόλουθα δὲ καὶ πρὸ τούτων ὁ τοῦ θεοῦ παῖς ἐμαρτύρετο, προλέγων ὅτι «καὶ οὐδεὶς ἀναβέβηκεν εἰς τὸν οὐρανὸν εἰ μὴ ὁ ἐκ τοῦ οὐρανοῦ καταβάς, ὁ υἱὸς τοῦ ἀνθρώπου ὁ ὢν ἐν τῷ οὐρανῷ». 18.4 τοιγαροῦν εἴπερ ἔφασκε τὸν ἐκ τοῦ ἀνθρωπείου γένους ὁρμώμενον εἰς οὐρανὸν μὲν ἀναβεβηκέναι μονώτατον ἐκ πάντων, ἐκ δὲ τῶν ἐκεῖσε πάλιν καταβεβηκέναι ἐνθάδε, καὶ δεῦρο βεβηκότα φοιτᾶν ἐν οὐρανῷ, συνέστηκεν ὅτι ψυχῆς ἀρετῇ ταῦτα ἔπραττεν ὁ ἄνθρωπος ἐκκρίτως. 18.5 ἡ γὰρ ἁγία τοῦ Χριστοῦ ψυχή, τῷ θεῷ συνδιαιτωμένη καὶ λόγῳ, πάντα μὲν ἐκπεριπολεῖ συλλήβδην, εἰς αὐτὸν δὲ βέβηκεν τὸν ἀνώτατον οὐρανόν, εἰς ὃν οὐδεὶς ἄλλος ἀνῆλθε τῶν ἀνθρώπων. ἀλλὰ ταῦτα εἰς αὐτὴν ἀνήρτηται τὴν ἀνθρωπείαν ἰδέαν, ἣν ὁ θεὸς ἐφόρεσε καὶ λόγος. 18.6 ὅτι δὲ πανταχοῦ πάρεστιν ἀθρόως ὁ τοῦ θεοῦ παῖς, οὐχ ἥκιστα καὶ περὶ τούτου μάρτυς ἕστηκεν Ἰωάννης, αὐτήκοος μὲν ὑπάρχων αὐτοῦ τοῦ Χριστοῦ, βοᾷ δὲ γεγωνότως αὐτολεξεί «θεὸν οὐδεὶς ἑόρακεν πώποτε· ὁ μονογενὴς υἱὸς ὁ ὢν εἰς τὸν κόλπον τοῦ πατρός, ἐκεῖνος ἐξηγήσατο». 18.7 καὶ μὴν εἰ δεῦρο παρὼν ἐπεφοίτα σωματικῶς ὁ Χριστός, ὁπηνίκα τούτους ἀπήγγελλεν 20Ἰωάννῃ τοὺς λόγους, ὁ δὲ τὰς τούτου ῥήσεις20 ὑποδεξάμενος ἐκήρυττε μὲν αὐτὸν ἐν τοῖς κόλποις εἶναι τοῦ πατρός, ἑστιώμενον ἐπὶ γῆς αὐτῷ σώματι, πῶς οὐκ ἐννοητέον ὅτι καὶ τῶν οὐρανῶν ἐπιβεβήκει τῷ τότε, καὶ ὡς κόλπων εἴσω διαιτώμενος καὶ τῇ γῇ θεοπρεπῶς ἐπεδήμει καὶ πᾶσιν ὁμοῦ παρῆν οἷα θεός;

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Eustathius against Origen on the witch of Endor / belly-speaker (1 Samuel 28).

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