From Ignatius on, writers hold two things together: God cannot suffer or change, and the Son, for our sake, became able to suffer and truly suffered in his flesh. 12
Praxeas and his followers, as Tertullian reportsc. 213 · Tertullianc. 213
When Praxeas taught that the Father suffered on the cross, Tertullian answered that the Father cannot even suffer with another, and that the Son suffered as man, not in the nature in which he is God. 34
The answers given:
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Apostolic Fathers
30–150
110c. AD
Suffered in flesh
Ignatius of Antioch d. c. 110 ADLetter to Polycarp 3.2
Wait for him who is above time, the timeless, the invisible, who for our sake became visible; the intangible, the impassible, who for our sake became passible; who for our sake endured in every way.
The pattern of later teaching in one line: the impassible God became able to suffer, for us.
τὸν ὑπὲρ καιρὸν προσδόκα, τὸν ἄχρονον, τὸν ἀόρατον, τὸν δἰ ἡμᾶς ὁρατόν, τὸν ἀψηλάφητον, τὸν ἀπαθῆ, τὸν δἰ ἡμᾶς παθητόν, τὸν κατὰ πάντα τρόπον δἰ ἡμᾶς ὑπομείναντα.Ignatius of Antioch The Apostolic Fathers Kirsopp Lake Cambridge, MA Harvard University Press London William Heinemann 1912 1 Loeb Classical Library Internet Archive (First1KGreek TEI, urn:cts:greekLit:tlg1443.tlg001) · English: translated for this page from the Greek
110c. AD
Suffered in flesh
Ignatius of Antioch d. c. 110 ADLetter to the Ephesians 7.2
There is one physician, both fleshly and spiritual, born and unborn, God in man, true life in death, both from Mary and from God, first able to suffer and then beyond suffering: Jesus Christ our Lord.
A poem-like confession in pairs: what Christ is as man and as God.
εἷς ἰατρός ἐστιν, σαρκικός τε καὶ πνευματικός, γεννητὸς καὶ ἀγέννητος, ἐν ἀνθρώπῳ θεός, ἐν θανάτῳ ζωὴ ἀληθινή, καὶ ἐκ Μαρίας καὶ ἐκ θεοῦ, πρῶτον παθητὸς καὶ τότε ἀπαθής. Ἰησοῦς Χριστὸς ὁ κύριος ἡμῶν.Ignatius of Antioch The Apostolic Fathers Kirsopp Lake Cambridge, MA Harvard University Press London William Heinemann 1912 1 Loeb Classical Library Internet Archive (First1KGreek TEI, urn:cts:greekLit:tlg1443.tlg001) · English: translated for this page from the Greek
Before Nicaea
150–325
213c. AD
Impassible
Tertullian c. 155–c. 220 ADAgainst Praxeas 29.5–6
Fearing open blasphemy against the Father, they hope to lessen it this way, granting now that the Father and Son are two: the Son suffers, the Father suffers with him. Fools in this too! For what is "to suffer with" but to suffer with another? If the Father is impassible, he is also unable to suffer with; or if he can suffer with, he can suffer.
Praxeas taught that the Father himself was born and suffered (Patripassianism). Tertullian answers that the Son suffered as man, not as God.
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si filius quidem patitur, pater uero compatitur. stulti et in hoc. quid est enim compati quam cum alio pati? porro si impassibilis pater, utique et incompassibilis; aut si compassibilis, utique passibilis.Emil Kroymann Tertullian Quinti Septimi Florentis Tertulliani opera F. Tempsky G. Freytag Vienna Leipzig 1900 3 Corpus Scriptorum Ecclesiasticorum Latinorum 47 Internet Archive (OGL CSEL TEI, urn:cts:latinLit:stoa0275.stoa007) · English: translated for this page from the Latin
213c. AD
Father suffered
Praxeas and his followers, as Tertullian reportsAgainst Praxeas 29.5–6
They hope to lessen the blasphemy this way, granting now that the Father and Son are two: the Son suffers, the Father suffers with him.
The later form of the view that the Father suffered on the cross. Tertullian calls it blasphemy.
Full English of this work is being translated
si filius quidem patitur, pater uero compatitur.Emil Kroymann Tertullian Quinti Septimi Florentis Tertulliani opera F. Tempsky G. Freytag Vienna Leipzig 1900 3 Corpus Scriptorum Ecclesiasticorum Latinorum 47 Internet Archive (OGL CSEL TEI, urn:cts:latinLit:stoa0275.stoa007) · English: translated for this page from the Latin
Nicaea to Chalcedon
325–451
430c. AD
Suffered in flesh
Cyril of Alexandria c. 376–444 ADThird Letter to Nestorius Anathema 12
If anyone does not confess that the Word of God suffered in the flesh and was crucified in the flesh, and tasted death in the flesh, and became the firstborn from the dead (Colossians 1:18), inasmuch as he is life and the giver of life as God: let him be anathema.
The last of the Twelve Anathemas Cyril attached to his Third Letter to Nestorius (430), received at Ephesus (431): the impassible Word truly suffered, in the flesh. Quoted in the old Latin version printed by Denzinger; the Greek opens 'If anyone does not confess that the Word of God suffered in the flesh'.
Full English of this work is being translated · Source text
Si quis non confitetur, Dei Verbum passum carne et crucifixum carne, et mortem carne gustasse, factumque primogenitum ex mortuis [Col 1,18], secundum quod vita est et vivificator ut Deus: A. S.Denzinger, Enchiridion symbolorum, 11th ed. (1911), no. 124 (Latin version) · English: translated for this page from the Latin
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Gregory Thaumaturgus, To Theopompus, on God's impassibility
A whole treatise on whether God can suffer. Survives in Syriac.
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Every early quote was read in its Greek or Latin and translated for this page by Claude (Opus 5.5) on 13 October 2026. Each line names the printed edition it was read from. A quote marked indirect does not state the answer outright; read its note. A writer's silence is never counted as an answer.