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Question 63 · The Church

Was the first church the true church, and did it "fall" later?

What the sources show

Hegesippus (as Eusebius reports) c. 180 · Tertullian c. 203Never fell

The early writers expected heresy outside the Church, not the Church's own fall. Hegesippus says false teachers rose once the apostles died; Tertullian argued that so many churches could not all have strayed into the same faith. 13

Westminster Assembly 1646 · Joseph Smith 1838 · Alexander Campbell 1839

The Reformers said the Church had always existed but had grown corrupt. Later restorationist movements said it fell away entirely and had to be restored. 456

The answers given:
ApostolicBefore NicaeaNicaea and afterMiddle AgesReformation to today

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Before Nicaea

150–325
180c. AD
Never fell

Hegesippus (as Eusebius reports) c. 110–c. 180 ADMemoirs, in Eusebius, Church History 3.32.7–8

... that until those times the Church remained a pure and uncorrupted virgin, while those who tried to corrupt the sound rule of the saving preaching, if there were any, still lurked in hidden darkness. But when the sacred band of the apostles had reached the end of life in various ways, and the generation of those who had heard the divine wisdom with their own ears had passed, then godless error began to take shape through the deceit of false teachers.

Hegesippus sees heresies rising outside the Church after the apostles, not the Church itself falling.

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180c. AD
Never fell

Irenaeus of Lyons c. 130–c. 202 ADAgainst Heresies 3.4.1

What if the apostles had not even left us Scriptures? Would we not have had to follow the order of the tradition they handed on to those to whom they entrusted the churches? Many barbarian peoples who believe in Christ assent to this order. They have salvation written in their hearts by the Spirit without paper or ink, and carefully keep the ancient tradition, believing in one God, maker of heaven and earth.

For Irenaeus the apostles' teaching was never lost and never needed restoring: it was handed on publicly to the churches they founded and kept there, so that even peoples who had no writings held it whole. The passage survives in the ancient Latin translation; the Greek of Book 3 is lost here.

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203c. AD
Never fell

Tertullian c. 155–c. 220 ADPrescription against Heretics 28.1–3

Suppose, then, that all have erred; that the apostle was mistaken in giving his testimony; that the Holy Spirit took care of no church to lead it into truth ... Is it likely that so many churches, and such great ones, should have strayed into one and the same faith? Among many, chance never comes out the same. The error of the churches' teaching would have produced different results. But what is found to be one among many is not error but tradition.

Tertullian's argument against the claim that the Church had lost the truth.

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Reformation

1500–1700
1646AD
Needed reform

Westminster AssemblyWestminster Confession of Faith 25.5

The purest churches under heaven are subject both to mixture and error; and some have so degenerated, as to become no churches of Christ, but synagogues of Satan. Nevertheless, there shall be always a church on earth, to worship God according to his will.

The Reformers held that the Church never vanished but had grown corrupt and needed reform.

Modern churches

1700–today
1838AD
Fell, restored

Joseph SmithHistory 1:19

I was answered that I must join none of them ... were all wrong ... abomination in his sight ... were all corrupt

Smith's account of his 1820 vision, written in 1838 and first printed here; it is the founding Latter-day Saint claim of a general apostasy. The 1842 printing survives in a rough scan with interleaved columns, so the quotation is given in the cleanest verified spans.

1839AD
Fell, restored

Alexander CampbellThe Christian System Preface

Since the full development of the great apostacy foretold by Prophets and Apostles, numerous attempts at reformation have been made. ... Since that time, the first effort known to us to abandon the whole controversy about creeds and reformations, and to restore primitive Christianity, or to build alone upon the Apostles and Prophets, Jesus Christ himself the chief corner, has been made.

The Preface sets out the Restoration Movement's programme: a great apostacy had occurred, and primitive Christianity was to be restored. Campbell's remedy was union of Christians by restoring the primitive order of the New Testament church, not founding a new sect.

How this page was made

Every early quote was read in its Greek or Latin and translated for this page by Claude (Opus 5.5) on 13 October 2026. Each line names the printed edition it was read from. A quote marked indirect does not state the answer outright; read its note. A writer's silence is never counted as an answer.